Chat GPT

I have been experimenting with Chat GPT and uploaded a spreadsheet the wines I hold in bond and asked it which wines I should prioritise for drinking.
It proposed that the wines that had been in bond longest should be drunk first.
I wonder, having very limited technical ability, if it is possible to refer it to a ‘reputable tasting database’?

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Have you tried to be more didactic or detailed in your prompts? For example, rather than saying “which wines should i drink first”, try asking something more along the lines of “Which of these wines should I prioritise drinking soonest, based on recommended drinking dates for the given vintages, as published by sources including but not limited to…”

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Yes, that’s probably key. It can be quite helpful (or quite unhelpful) depending on context and the prompt used. If you have a PDF or other file with a list of wines and drinking dates, you can upload that and get it to use it – but even without that, a better prompt might give you better results.

I’ve asked it for advice on pairing wine with meals (or vice versa) and it’s often quite good at that.

I tried copying my CT list across with this prompt:
Can you please give me proposed drinking dates for the wines in my cellar? (below)
Thanks!
It’s a bit simplistic but kinda works. It does take the wine style into account to some extent. I then followed that up with:
Can you give specific recommendations based on the specific wines? Thanks
This gave a bit more detail, but some suggestions seemed too early for me still.

Also, I know it’s odd but please and thankyou really help improve its output. It responds in a kinda human like way, and polite, helpful questions trigger the context for polite, helpful responses.

Also, telling ChatGPT “If you don’t know, don’t guess” can sometimes have an enlightening impact on results!

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Thanks for the suggestions. In my experience Chat GPT is an amazing resource though capable of giving an incorrect answer. I will continue to experiment.

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My experience is similar. It’s an amazing resource, but there are some things it excels at and others it’s not so great at.

As an example of the latter, it was reported recently that ChaGPT 4o was pitted against a 1977 Atari 2600 (1.19Mhz!) running the 1979 Atari Chess game, and lost. With the 4o model, at least, that kind of reasoning over a longer period (multiple prompts) is not something it’s great at.

And yes, if using for anything important, it’s best to double-check its suggestions as it can make mistakes.

Try using VitaBella. It’s chat GPT specifically for wine. You can find it in the explore GPTs section of the app. Let us know if the results are any different

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Sorry, stumbled on this thread and thought I’d share my experience of ChatGPT 5.1 and my wine cellar.

My prompt was: Which of these wines should I prioritise drinking soonest, based on recommended drinking dates for the given vintages, as published by sources including but not limited to Neal Young, Decanter, Jancis Robinson and others.

The summarised results out of 160 wines were:

Wine Vintage Category Drink Window Priority
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc ‘Le Miocène’ (Alain Jaume) 2016 White 2017–2020 Drink Now
Bourgogne Blanc Cuvée Oligocène (Patrick Javillier) 2017 White 2020–2022 . Drink Now
Old Vine White (Mullineux) 2015 White 2020–2024 Drink Now
Viña Bosconia Reserva (López de Heredia) 2005 Red 2018–2025 Drink Now
Skurfberg (Sadie Family) 2016 White 2018–2028 Drink Soon
Reserve Chenin Blanc (DeMorgenzon) 2017 White 2020–2028 Drink Soon
Rocking Horse Cape White (Thorne & Daughters) 2017 White 2021–2028 . Drink Soon
Clos des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape 2012 Red 2015–2028 Drink Soon
Viña Ardanza Reserva (La Rioja Alta) 2012 Red 2021–2030 Drink Soon
Château Batailley, Pauillac 2009 Red 2018–2035 Hold
Château Batailley, Pauillac 2010 Red 2020–2040 Hold
Château Le Crock, St-Estèphe 2010 Red 2018–2038 Hold
Château Gloria, St-Julien 2010 Red 2018–2038 Hold
Rubicon, Meerlust 2009 Red 2020–2032 Hold
Sijnn Red Blend, Malgas 2010 Red 2018–2035 Hold
Viña Tondonia Reserva (López de Heredia) 2006 Red 2017–2031 Hold
Viña Tondonia Reserva (López de Heredia) 2011 Red 2023–2039 Hold

I can’t disagree with any, bar maybe the Sadie Skurfberg - 2016 feels still a bit young.

Overall I was pretty impressed.

The estimate for the drinking window of the Viña Bosconia is likely to be too conservative in my experience. I recently had a 2007 and a 1999 of this wine and they were both drinking beautifully. They did not yet seem to be approaching the end of their drinking window.

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Suspect you may mean my friend Neal Martin. I don’t think singer Neil Young claims any relationship to wine expertise, although AI search suggests otherwise:

the famous singer-songwriter

Neil Young and his half-sister Astrid Young , a musician and certified sommelier (wine expert). The search results also mention a song on which Neil Young used a wine glass as an instrument.

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Well, thanks for correcting me, Jancis. I have to admit, I’m a fan of both Neil’s! :laughing:

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Thank you - I will resist the temptation to grab one over Christmas then.

I will try a bottle of Clos des Papes 2012 but I can’t believe that it should be drunk soon